I’m quite new to the Portuguese language. The question I wanted to ask is, what are some of the most challenging factors people have faced when learning Portuguese? For me, it seems that many words change completely simply by changing the English word by one letter.
For example:
Boy = garoto
Boys = rapazes
I must admit, I feel intimidated trying to learn this language. It’s probably too early for me to feel this way?
By the way, I love this site. The audio controls on the short conversations section are incredible.
Bem vindo, @m7870! To me, the most challenging aspect is being aware of all the endings of words that need to change, based on gender and number, as you point out. But stick with it, it will become easier with time.
By the way, are you studying Brazilian Portuguese? “Garoto” is the word for “boy” in Brazilian Portuguese. In European Portuguese it would be “menino” and “meninos.”
Good luck!
Olá, @m7870, and welcome! Thanks for posting and for your feedback.
Plurals in Portuguese can be tricky, because there are several different patterns to consider. But they’re usually not that radically different You just happened to pick two different synonyms. You could just as well say “garoto”/“garotos” or “rapaz”/“rapazes”. “Garoto” is more common in Brazil than in Portugal (but we also know and sometimes use the word here), but “rapaz” and “menino” (the latter for younger children) are both used all the time.
The most challenging aspect without question is actually understanding what people are saying when they speak to you. No matter how well you master the grammar, how perfectly you get to understand what you read, or how proficient you may be in speaking, what on earth people are saying when they answer you is a whole different ball game
The most challenging thing is when people go off script from what im used to learning on here like going to the store with the intent of just paying for groceries and someone will say …Do you have a card for our store?, You can Scan the code for our digital menu, and some form of asking for the Fiscal number etc.
Also there aren’t any subtitles in Português on children’s television =( I kinda want to learn the songs Dont judge me !!
I only found out today that homem becomes homens when plural. I’ve seen that many times but it never registered that the spelling had changed. It has never been explained before now on this programme.
Hearing the pronunciation is the trickiest thing for me. (I’ve also realised from this programme that I don’t always pronounce it the best either!) I can understand when I read far more that the speaking and listening part.
The audiovisual clips in the units are often so completely incomprehensible I wonder whether the speakers are deliberately aiming to sound unintelligible or do the Portuguese really communicate like this?? If so, how on earth can they understand one another??
I find it hard to understand the audios spoken by various people sometimes too. That said, I can only imagine what Portuguese speaking people must think about listening to people who speak English.
It could be varied and intentional, so that one listens more closely, to catch the mashing of words together that seems to be quite common. I listen to all three versions several times. When I re-listen to the version that’s the hardest to understand, it is then that I pick up more words or the slightest bit of them that I missed the first time time around.
Well after almost 6 months of learning Portuguese, I still find it challenging to interact/speak with locals. As a new joiner to this platform I hope it gets easier with audios and podcasts available as I am following it on youtube.
I’m nearly fluent in Spanish because I was born in Mexico and my dad is from Mexico City. Even with that, I notice that Portuguese is a challenge. For me that is mostly because the vowels are pronounced differently. Portuguese - especially the European - has a lot of dipthongs and closed vowels. It’s almost like the vowels are bent. And it’s not only for a word like televisao - compared to the Spanish televisión. Even words with single vowels.
I agree, but I have this in real life in Portugal as well all the time… Seems like they deliberately put a mix of people in the clips… People who pronounce clearly and slow and the opposite. But I agree sometimes I’m like whaaaat? There is no words there just a few sounds… But yes welcome to Portuguese. It gets better over time haha.
Having lived in northern Portugal since March 2018 I have to say that for me the biggest challenge is how fast people speak, and there is a difference in the way language is spoken generally in the north compared to the south.
Google translate app can be useful. But as you have already read, it is less than perfect. My method is to use the app to help you if you get stuck in a face to face conversation. If you make a mistake or use a wrong word or phrase don’t worry everyone here is happy to hear you are making an effort to learn the language!
Hi friends,
I started learning Portuguese in November. My first foreign language is Greek - I’m actually a bachelor in Greek. My English is at an almost good level .Portuguese is very easy for me, I even think to start Spanish after a year. I find many interesting topics here, as well as exercises. I will be happy to share any topics regarding the Portuguese language - European. I find translation on internet not very correct sometimes. There is more Brazilian Portuguese everywhere on the internet. But I also found an English dictionary from Amazon at Oxford, which gives both options - European and Brazilian
You find Portuguese easy? Wow, lucky you. I am fluent in French and have studied Russian for several years. But I have to say that Portuguese is the most difficult language I have ever studied - particularly the understanding of the language as spoken by the native population.
I lived in Athens for a couple of years so I know a smattering of modern Greek. I still find Portuguese more difficult! Knowing French helps because of similarities. But the big problem is the way Portuguese people speak.
To me, the most challenging aspect is being aware of all the endings of words that need to change, based on gender and number, as you point out. But stick with it, it will become easier with time.
You just happened to pick two different synonyms. You could just as well say “garoto”/“garotos” or “rapaz”/“rapazes”. “Garoto” is more common in Brazil than in Portugal (but we also know and sometimes use the word here), but “rapaz” and “menino” (the latter for younger children) are both used all the time.
like going to the store with the intent of just paying for groceries and someone will say …Do you have a card for our store?, You can Scan the code for our digital menu, and some form of asking for the Fiscal number etc.
I also now Russian…Greek people speak on the same way- very fast and some of the letters they “eat”,…as I see in português is the same…